New KOTR T-Shirts For Sale

[panicked_bear]

Hey Jake, is 100 the number of shirts that i've put on order? If it is, i think that I changed my mind. Can i get 200 instead.


You know, its always safe to have a few extras, especially with the low cost of lace these days. You never know when it will shoot up again.

[Dwango]

any L t's left? cheers

[Park, Cheolyoung]

this is irrelevant. but have some qustions.

is 'koera on the rocks' 산악회?

does each member of KOTR pay money for anuual membership?

Does KOTR has rank system?

산악회 sounds like that to me.

[shanja]

No KOTR is NOT a club, it has no president, no fees, no ranks or positions, no executive committee or organizer, no chain of command.
Korea On The Rocks는 산악회 아닙니다, 회장도 없습니다, 회비도 없습니다, 계급/ 실행위원/ CEO/ 관리자/ 지휘계통도 없습니다

I want to say this clearly, just so that we are not confused in peoples minds with (the much more common, and accountable) "club/ 산악회" structure.
OK, we sometimes act like a club when we have 'get togethers' at a crag etc, BUT the actions of any person one or group of people, HAVE NO SANCTION/ PERMISSION "per se" from KOTR. This is very different from typical Korean climbing clubs, where good or bad actions reflect directly (or more directly) on that club, it's ethics and rules etc.KOTR accepts no responsibility for actions (good or bad) done by "members" (Korean or Foreigner).

사실은 KOTR는 "산악회" 말고 그냥 한국에서 클라이밍 정보/ 충고/ 경고 등등 웹페이지 입니다. KOTR 멤버들이 물론이죠, 항상 좋은행동/ 태도/ 인상 해야하지만, KOTR "멤버들 (나쁜/ 좋은)행동 etc 대한 책임이 없다

I hope that poor Korean is understandable...I don't mean it to sound negative, but just reflect accurately what our KOTR "structure" is. We just don't have the structure to monitor/ reward/ punish each others actions in any official way. It's just individuals sharing info and (hopefully) helping each other and having a good time.

[Park, Cheolyoung]

No KOTR is NOT a club, it has no president, no fees, no ranks or positions, no executive committee or organizer, no chain of command.

that's exactly how I understand KOTR. (your korean is good!)
this is great forum. sharing info, meeting people, helping each other..

So I think it should be a bit more careful to use the term '산악회' on the Tshirt?

cuz that '산악회' title on the Tshirt makes me think group of foreigners made '산악회' for their own sake. Even though I totally understand KOTR ISN't '산악회' So it means when just random Korean climbers see that Tshirt they will probably think KOTR is '산악회'.